Why was the dual enrollment program eliminated from Pine View School?

Further below in the following article, "Remember the Story of the Emperor's New Clothes?," is information obtained from the Sarasota County School Board (SCSB) and State College of Florida (SCF) via a Freedom of Information Act request. It details a disturbing lack of accountability on the part of Pine View school and the SCSB for the withdrawal of nearly all dual enrollment classes on Pine View’s campus. The article explains these 3 main points:

1. Lack of communication and transparency.

The district and Pine View have known since February 2018 that SCF had made the decision to eliminate dual enrollment classes at Pine View.  Despite this knowledge, the district and Pine View did not inform parents and students until May 2018, 3 weeks before the end of school and AFTER class registration for fall courses.

SCF made their decision in November 2017.

The administration allowed over 200 students to enroll in dual enrollment courses knowing full well these classes would not be offered.

2. No accountability.

A determining factor in SCF’s decision to eliminate dual enrollment at Pine View was the 2016 Climate Survey which shows alarming lack of faith in Pine View’s principal.

The district showed bad faith in seeking public feedback and then doing nothing to redress the considerable grievances against the Pine View school leadership.

3.  Concerns about academic integrity.

Pine View school transcripts are inaccurate. Pine View taught a single semester dual enrollment course over a year - students taking that course received grades for 2 semesters, but only 1 college credit - making the transcript appear more substantial than they actually were.

SCF had serious concerns over a grade distribution curve where grades were inflated when the test was given to Pine View in advance, than when the test was provided to Pine View the day of the exam.

These concerns were minimally addressed by the district and Pine View. However, no independent 3rd party was requested to review these serious issues.

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Dual enrollment courses have been a long standing offering at Pine View. Please support restoring this program to Pine View so the students have a full continuum of choices to meet their educational needs.

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Please contact your elected school board member and request a thorough, independent investigation of these issues.


Remember the story of The Emperor's New Clothes?

How long will we look the other way when Sarasota County School District administrators make decisions, before and after asking for and ignoring our feedback?

For example, remember the climate surveys that used to be more than just "radio buttons" where we could voice our concerns and frustrations? District administrators may not have wanted to read them, but SCF did, and that helped them make a decision about dual enrollment classes no longer being available at Pine View School. (See link below to view).

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2016 Pine View Climate Survey

Example 2: Are administrators currently asking what it means to graduate with a Pine View diploma? Does it involve dual enrollment classes?

Well, what you may not know is SCF has already decided that it will no longer allow Pine View teachers to teach dual enrollment classes on Pine View's campus after this year. You are being engaged, but your feedback does not matter. The decision has already been made in November 2017 and February 2018.

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Example 3: Do you think the district has been accurate with dual enrollment high school transcripts, as it applies to college classes and credit? Have the transcripts accurately reflected students taking "the most rigorous courses available on the high school campus"?

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How long will we continue to pay the salaries of our current district administrators and agree with how they behave? Do we trust them to do what is in the best interest of our students and families? The game is rigged.


 

 

ALERT - TERRIBLE NEWS

Without any stakeholder input, Pine View today has arbitrarily removed the majority of dual enrollment classes from the Pine View campus.

Under the guise of good news and increased options for online dual enrollment with UF, Pine View has now made it so no future students will be able to graduate with their Pine View diploma and associate of arts degree. This severely limits options for Pine View students, of which over 50% attend Florida universities and colleges. Graduating with a high school diploma and an associates degree can save families up to $42,000 in college tuition costs as well as guarantee a student's transfer to a Florida college or university.

We must ask ourselves why this change was made at such a late date when students had already registered in February. As this decision appears to be made in isolation without any stakeholder input, we are simply asking Dr. Covert, principal, Pine View School, to reinstate these classes and opportunities for students.

Please stand with us and send an email to support stakeholder input on decisions that affect our children.

Sample email:

Dear Dr. Covert,

We object to removing the majority of dual enrollment classes from the Pine View campus. This deprives our children from being able to earn their associate of arts degree while finishing their high school diploma on Pine View campus. Removing these classes, this late in the year, when registration was complete in February and leaving tudents with limited options is extremely concerning at best.

These classes have been staples on Pine View campus for at least 15 years and the demand continues to grow each year. Why would you consider removing these classes without any stakeholder input? This abrupt action impacts students negatively and seems arbitrary.

Please reinstate these classes for the 2018-19 school year.

Sincerely,


Sarasota county students can now take dual enrollment classes online at the University of Florida! Deadline to register is May 11, 2018 for fall!

New this year, Sarasota county high school students may take dual enrollment at UF, a top 10 public research university! You must register by May 11, 2018. Follow the link below for more information.

UF dual enrollment

 *Registration for classes (including dual enrollment students) starts the first week in April (on April 5th for most of our students, maybe as early as April 4th if they already have completed (and received credit for) 5 DE classes prior to April. You can see how this timeline differs significantly with the “all materials due for Dual enrollment due by May 15th deadline". That deadline works if you are staying on the Pine View campus for your courses, but if you don’t get all your paperwork, formal test scores, interview with a Pine View guidance counselor and interview with Heather Shehorn (at SCF) completed by the end of March, then you are behind the other students when it comes to getting all your classes.   http://www.scf.edu/content/PDF/academics/SCFFall2018AcademicCalendar2-12-18.pdf   *If you are a new-to-SCF student please check with SCF to make sure they have all accurate information regarding you and your enrollment. Clerical and technical errors could cause problems, so verify and clarify before the deadlines.  *The course schedule for Summer 2018 is available. The link is here:   https://pbanweb02br.scf.edu/PROD/bwckschd.p_disp_dyn_sched

*Registration for classes (including dual enrollment students) starts the first week in April (on April 5th for most of our students, maybe as early as April 4th if they already have completed (and received credit for) 5 DE classes prior to April. You can see how this timeline differs significantly with the “all materials due for Dual enrollment due by May 15th deadline". That deadline works if you are staying on the Pine View campus for your courses, but if you don’t get all your paperwork, formal test scores, interview with a Pine View guidance counselor and interview with Heather Shehorn (at SCF) completed by the end of March, then you are behind the other students when it comes to getting all your classes.

http://www.scf.edu/content/PDF/academics/SCFFall2018AcademicCalendar2-12-18.pdf

*If you are a new-to-SCF student please check with SCF to make sure they have all accurate information regarding you and your enrollment. Clerical and technical errors could cause problems, so verify and clarify before the deadlines.

*The course schedule for Summer 2018 is available. The link is here:

https://pbanweb02br.scf.edu/PROD/bwckschd.p_disp_dyn_sched

Attention Sarasota County students!

Are you in grades 6 - 12?
Is your cumulative unweighted GPA 3.0 or better?
Are your (Reading/Writing/Math) PERT scores 150+/440+/560+, or your SAT scores 24+/24+/29+, or your ACT scores 19+/17+/23+ within the past two years?
If so, then you are eligible to take Dual Enrollment classes!

Here's an example of what this could mean for you:
CLEP geometry or take it in the summer between 8th and 9th grade (this fulfills the geometry requirement)
FRESHMAN YEAR
ENC 1101 (Fall semester)/ENC 1102 (Spring semester)
Math/Algebra 1 or equivalent (This fulfills the algebra requirement)
Science/Biology or equivalent (This fulfills the biology requirement)
Foreign language
World history honors (This fulfills the world history requirement)
Play a H.S. sport
SOPHOMORE YEAR
ENC 2010 (Fall semester)/LIT 2000 (Spring semester) This fulfills the 4 English class requirements
DE precalc (Fall semester)/DE trig (Spring semester) (This fulfills the mathematics requirement)
AP U.S. History (This fulfills the American government requirement)
Foreign language (This fulfills the foreign language requirement)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
Play a H.S. sport/Take HOPE (This fulfills the physical education requirement)
JUNIOR YEAR
DE class on SCF campus(Fall semester)/DE class on SCF campus (Spring semester)
DE class on SCF campus (Fall semester)/DE class on SCF campus (Spring semester)
AP Macro/AP Gov (this fulfills the economics and government requirement)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
SENIOR YEAR
DE class on SCF campus (Fall semester)/DE class on SCF campus (Spring semester)
DE Class on SCF campus (Fall semester)/DE class on SCF campus (Spring semester)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
AP class/honors class (potential college credit)
GRADUATION with A.A. degree (follow requirements) as well as high school diploma and college credits!

"Students are not required to take English 1 and English 2 before ENC1101 and ENC1102. Students in grades 6-12 who meet eligibility for DE classes are able to take DE classes offered at PV on the PV campus."  -Pine View School for the Gifted's guidance counsellor, 2/1/18

Registration 2018-19 Update

As parents and students look to next year's coursework options, the course catalog may recommend certain courses (AP, DE) to only junior and senior students. Please note per Florida law, accelerated courses are available to students in grades 6-12 provided they meet eligibility criteria. To ensure eligible students have access to these courses, the school district has provided the following guidance,

All courses are open to any interested student, and these suggested guidelines are never intended or used to discourage a student from taking a rigorous course.
— Steve Cantees, Exec. Director of High Schools, SCSB

bullying

The SCSB bullying policy flowchart for investigating incidences of bullying or harassment. You may also refer to the district's incident report forms and policy at their website.

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Tips for taking the classes best for your student

Here's some useful information that has been used successfully:

If a student is told they may not take a Florida Virtual School (FLVS)online learning class, the law says otherwise,

See also this guidance from FLDOE, https://info.fldoe.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-7854/dps-wkly-2017-28.pdf

If a student is told they MUST take an AP exam or they will be billed for the exam/must pay the fee:

If a student is told that AP classes are better than Dual Enrollment classes:

If a student is told they are not allowed to change classrooms to have a different teacher (keep in mind FLVS/online learning is always an option).

If a gifted student has transferred from out-of-state, they are required to receive comparable gifted services:


The latest from our blog

wear your red shirt to protest bowden pick

There has been a community outcry over the SCSB pick of Todd Bowden as superintendent due to claims of sexual harassment and creating a hostile working environment. Tom Lyons, columnist, Sarasota Herald Tribune, does a terrific job outlining the story in his October 19 column. Please show your support for Sarasota teachers and attend the upcoming Sarasota County School Board meeting on Tuesday, November 1 at 6:30 p.m. to protest ratifying Bowden's financial contract.

Where: Sarasota County School Board, 1980 Landings Blvd., Sarasota

Date: Tuesday, November 1st, 6:30 p.m.

I think they let all the female employees of this district down.
— Barry Dubin, executive director, SCTA

sign our petition!

On December 14, 2015, the SCSB finance department changed Pine View School (which was founded in 1969 as public gifted school) to a magnet school for academically talented, without any public input. The magnet designation limits parents and students choices. Please sign our petition to remove the magnet designation.


Watch a Pine View student advocate to learn at his own pace before the Sarasota County School Board


Pine view's evolution to a "magnet" school


About us

We are a group of parents committed to ensuring quality education for students. We believe parents, students, and teachers working together are a powerful voice. As equal partners we can create innovation, efficiencies, and find new resources to make our school the best it can be.

We support keeping Pine View School for the Gifted a full-time gifted option for students as it has been since its inception in 1969.

We support Pine View students being offered the same opportunities for dual enrollment (DE) and FLVS (online classes) as the other Sarasota County public schools.

Changes are underway at the district and at Pine View that will limit options for our students. If you support keeping Pine View School for the Gifted the school it always has been, and would like to keep these options, please provide your contact information and we will be in touch with more information as it develops. We will not share your information.

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